« BackShow HN: Windsurf – Agentic IDEcodeium.comSubmitted by fortenforge 2 days ago
  • bberenberg 7 hours ago

    I’ve been using it the past few days. It’s both magical and terrible. They do their own terminal management so you’re fighting env issues that make no sense. It somehow spawns a terminal that can’t find my installed version of node, so then it asks me to brew install one, but will this now screw up my system or no? It’s an uncanny valley moment where it’s close, but also not really there. Hopefully the team can quickly improve this UX and use the native terminal functionality as the foundation of how they interact with the system.

    • IAmGraydon 4 hours ago

      I just got done with my first session in Windsurf. It's mostly magical, but the terminal implementation leaves something to be desired. That doesn't seem like it would take much to fix though. Setting that aside, this thing is insane. I spun up a Django project/app and was able to accomplish in about 5 minutes what would normally take over an hour. The way it seamlessly edits multiple files in unison is unbelievably powerful. You can create a URL route, a view, a model and a template all in one swipe and it gets it right time after time. I'm impressed.

      • viraptor 3 hours ago

        > somehow spawns a terminal that can’t find my installed version of node

        That's weird. It just runs my usual zsh profile files. Have you got some very customised shell init?

      • benok an hour ago

        I always develop remotely from windows laptop to Linux servers using VSCode's remote ssh extension.

        I don't know why you must fork the remote ssh extension, please keep these basic settings. Without supporting "remote.SSH.path", I can't connect to my server using putty. (Please refer to https://github.com/MarkusDeutschmann/ssh2plink)

        • benok 30 minutes ago

          I patched ssh2plink and can connect to my server. But, "Open Folder" button wants to open local folder. It seems that the remote ssh connection is not supported yet...

        • mikecallaghan 3 hours ago

          I haven’t experienced any of the terminal issues people stress complaining about. Maybe they fixed it?

          Today I had it build me an Angular component I could use to recognize and decode barcodes through the device camera. It did an excellent job and worked with just a little coaxing. I’m impressed.

          • j-pb 7 hours ago

            Tbh while and after watching the video, I wasn't sure if the whole thing isn't just a parody of AI companies.

            • Maxious 28 minutes ago

              They've had astroturfers promoting it across social media today including this mad lad "$999/mo marketing team in a box " https://www.reddit.com/user/thelandofficial

              • OccamsMirror 7 hours ago

                Felt like I was watching Silicon Valley.

                • IAmGraydon 6 hours ago

                  Did you notice Russ Hanneman? It's supposed to be a play on SV.

            • IAmGraydon 6 hours ago

              Any idea how Codeium is able to provide users with unlimited access to Sonnet and 4o for only $10 per month? I can easily blow through $10 in API credits from either of them. Is that price going to be sustainable?

            • layer8 4 hours ago

              > an AI that can […] tackle complex tasks independently like an Agent. The AI is completely in sync with you, every step of the way.

              How can it tackle complex tasks independently if it is completely in sync with the user every step of the way?

              The marketing copy seems to promise contradictory properties.

              • FergusArgyll 7 hours ago

                I've been using Codeium's vscode extension (have also tried out vim & emacs 'extensions') and it's my favorite (out of the free ones - that is)

                the ctrl-shift-i for "inline chat - sort of", generate docstrings, control over context, I dunno, a couple small details that make it a little better.

                I don't know what model they use but it's quite fast and I don't personally notice an "iq penalty" although I'm sure there is one

                • IAmGraydon 6 hours ago

                  Which other extensions have you tried? I've been experimenting with Cline and Continue.dev recently. Continue seems to be the winner for now, but I may give Codeium and Windsurf a try.

                • wcallahan 5 hours ago

                  I wanted to watch the video, but the keyboard typing being the loudest part of the video made it rather hard to listen.

                  I wonder if a tool exists to strip keyboard noise from YouTube videos?

                  • barbazoo 7 hours ago

                    Does anyone know if there's a similar flag as in Cursor that makes sure the local code isn't used for training?

                    https://www.cursor.com/privacy

                    • ned99 7 hours ago

                      It's a cool idea but i really don't see how this is any diff from Cursor IDE. It might have features that are totally diff from Cursor but visually looking it just looks to me exactly like Cursor

                      • barbazoo 7 hours ago

                        Cursor doesn't edit files directly last time I checked.

                        • punkspider 6 hours ago

                          It does edit files directly when using its' Composer feature (Ctrl/Cmd+I).

                      • swyx 6 hours ago

                        for the cynical folks, Codeium has been publishing blogposts with me on AI product thinking and its been remarkable to watch as someone with no vested interest:

                        https://latent.space/p/enterprise

                        yes, they started with "another copilot", and had one of the best years in code for enterprise ai this year.

                        here they are starting with "another cursor".

                        see the pattern?

                        • WhatsName 8 hours ago

                          How is this different from cursor?

                          • IAmGraydon 6 hours ago

                            For one thing, it seems to be half the price.

                            • valtism 7 hours ago

                              It's free (for now)

                              • barbazoo 7 hours ago

                                > You are already in a free 2-week trial so you can explore all Pro features right away.

                            • maille 7 hours ago

                              Can you write, compile and debug c++ with that?