• teractiveodular 3 hours ago

    Cost cutting in effect at SpaceX: Falcon Heavy used a Tesla Roadster as their test payload, Starship only has a banana.

    • state_less 2 hours ago

      I think it's an homage to previous chimp astronauts.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjCX5F74zIM

      Knight E6.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_(chimpanzee)

      • adolph 3 hours ago

        No shots of the banana yet post launch. Did it rip away from the strings?

        (Up until I typed this I hadn’t considered they might use an artificial banana.)

        • Laremere 3 hours ago

          Banana is on screen at T+00:24

          • dotancohen 2 hours ago

            With 5.2 million people watching. This flight probably broke the world record for most people watching a single specific banana, ever.

      • marviel 3 hours ago

        unfortunately they had to scrap the booster Catch, due to undisclosed factors.

        • the_king 3 hours ago

          I would love to see the dashboard that the team that made the decision was looking at.

          I'd be interested to hear speculation by people who know about this as to what they think went wrong. Was it off course? Did the engines not relight in time? Did it not have enough fuel?

          • piombisallow 35 minutes ago

            Honestly showing that you can re-target it in flight is extremely impressive too. Like, it still soft-landed in water, it didn't blow up.

            • TaylorAlexander 25 minutes ago

              Hah. I mean it did blow up (the booster), but not due to impact from a failed soft landing. The soft landing succeeded, then it blew up.

              • mempko 16 minutes ago

                The upper stage was also on fire!

              • ceejayoz 3 hours ago

                They announced a no-go while it was still boosting towards space, so it won’t be a relight issue.

                • cubefox 24 minutes ago

                  > They announced a no-go while it was still boosting towards space,

                  False. The booster was already coming back when the landing abort came through.

                  • zamalek 2 hours ago

                    I wonder whether doing a catch without the catcher (rapid scheduled crash landing) would be feasible. Data is data.

                    • CompuHacker 2 hours ago

                      That is what happened. It performs the maneuvers at a primary target site with no catcher, or terrain, or ground-based feedback; the Gulf; switching to an alternate site; the launch tower; if and only if all factors allow for a real catch.

                      • mulmen 2 hours ago

                        > Data is data.

                        This is one of those cases where technically correct is not the best kind of correct.

                        Not all data is useful.

                        A billion rows of sensor output is data but without a timestamp it’s useless. Maybe you need more or less resolution, or additional dimensions.

                  • mwambua 3 hours ago

                    The explosion when it landed in the ocean was pretty epic though!

                    • Ancalagon 3 hours ago

                      did they land it on the barge instead?

                      • pieix 3 hours ago

                        No landing legs on Starship or its booster! Tower catch or bust.

                        • Ancalagon 3 hours ago

                          oh duh, thanks

                        • teractiveodular 3 hours ago

                          No, it was a water splashdown. Looked silky smooth though, they likely could have caught it again had they tried.

                        • perihelions 3 hours ago

                          It did a controlled landing on the Gulf of Mexico, exploded, and now it's floating!

                          Hasn't sunk yet; haven't seen any official comments yet about this novel situation.

                        • nycdotnet 3 hours ago

                          no barge for super heavy- the point of the catch is to save weight on the massive legs that would be required. It “soft landed” in the Gulf a few miles off shore, meaning they did a burn and it entered the water not in freefall (though it still looked faster than I expected).

                          • oezi 3 hours ago

                            Water splashdown.

                          • ReptileMan 3 hours ago

                            The way it gently splashed down in the ocean without hiccup - I think this is promising and that they will get to the chopsticks catching a booster is boring and mundane phase soon. Specialists would say why they aborted.

                            • cubefox 14 minutes ago

                              Well, it made a big fireball. It's only that the official stream cut away before that. You could still hear the SpaceX crowd cheering as they (apparently) got to see it. The fireball was in any case visible in the NSF stream: https://www.youtube.com/live/6yd_cpPP4fE&t=3h31m35s

                              Though the upper stage actually didn't explode this time, it only broke apart.

                          • postmeta 2 hours ago

                            NSF Stream commentary is fun too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yd_cpPP4fE

                            • gnarbarian 3 hours ago

                              Any word why they scrapped the booster catch?

                              • JoshuaJB 3 hours ago

                                No official word, but the communication antenna on the tower appears to be damaged [1]. Seems likely that played a role.

                                [1] https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1858998330401190375

                                • MegaDeKay a minute ago

                                  Strange how it is leaning to one side but otherwise looks just fine. I'd have thought that anything with enough force to push it over like that would have caused other more visible damage. Pretty grainy video though.

                                • bandyaboot 3 hours ago

                                  Whatever it was, it seems more likely that it was a booster issue than anything relating to the tower given that they were initially go for the catch. It was only during the boostback burn that they scrapped it.