• camtarn 14 hours ago

    This is a hilarious concept and would probably genuinely help. Nicely done!

    I used to have a similar issue with hiding inside all the time (during Covid times, of course) and to motivate myself to go outside, I started an Instagram of tiny little plants growing in cracks in the pavement. I tried to add a new tiny plant every day or two, which meant that I had to wander further and further afield to find a suitable specimen. It wasn't perfect, but was quite motivating.

    • CincinnatiMan 14 hours ago

      I love the irony here. Going outside into “real life” to find pictures to post on a site that keeps people inside.

      • johnmaguire 12 hours ago

        "[...] the outside world, the non-digital world, is merely a theatrical space in which one stages and records content for the much more real, much more vital digital space. One should only engage with the outside world as one engages with a coal mine. Suit up, gather what is needed, and return to the surface." -- bo burnham, Inside

        https://youtu.be/PSClBFUe-o0?t=26

        • thatcat 12 hours ago

          solid bit, but weird transition into pirate maps

          • johnmaguire 12 hours ago

            Inside is a feature-length movie filmed during the pandemic, definitely worth watching in its entirety if you haven't. It's incredibly creative. I linked the video at the second of three "bits" performed in a single scene. In this scene, he's pretending to be a standup comedian in front of an audience, hence the multiple jokes. Bo actually previously used the pirate joke in The Big Sick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYZ5efCcK_s

        • Sharlin 13 hours ago

          TBH I don't think Instagram particularly keeps people inside given that >99.99% of its users use it exclusively on mobile.

          • bentaber 13 hours ago

            Because people don’t use their phones at home?

          • Aurornis 11 hours ago

            From what I’ve seen, Instagram is better at motivating young people to go outside and do things than video games were in the 90s or even today.

            With Instagram they see their friends doing things and it’s a reminder that going outside and/or spending time with friends is fun. There’s a lot of pearl clutching about people getting jealous about other people’s vacation pictures, but on the whole the active Instagram users I know are much more social and likely to spend time outside the house than the gamers or Redditors. By a wide margin.

            • slyn 5 hours ago

              May have been true when Instagram was a photos app with a chronological timeline of only the accounts you follow + a few ads. If you wanted to seek content outside of your personally curated feed it was in a different tab or you would need to search for it.

              Now it’s a meme-shorts first platform that constantly suggests content outside of your follows and non-chronologically. You can’t opt out of “suggested content” pictures or videos in your feed for more than 30 days at a time and there is no option to permanently opt out. It’s not possible to opt out of shorts (reels) suggestions in your feed. It’s not possible to opt out of meta “threads” suggestions in your feed. I just opened the app and 5 of the first 11 items in my feed were sponsored ads, and 1 of the 11 was suggested “threads”.

              • awad 4 hours ago

                Plenty of those memes and reels ARE focused on 'IRL' activities, though. Obviously the full experience depends on your feed, but a lot of content is created and shared around restaurants/activities/vacation etc and many millennials and Gen Z find inspiration there, whether from influencers or peers.

              • acyou 11 hours ago

                Is this still true though? My gut feeling is that most Instagram users are now passive, meaning they doomscroll and never post while lying in bed in their parents basement while their 20s sail by.

                Not so much a stereotype as a reflection of the real people I know.

                I think we used to see much more content from friends, I think the feed is now mostly content creators/ads/tiktokified, no?

                • tredre3 9 hours ago

                  > My gut feeling is that most Instagram users are now passive

                  That's just reflective of how the world has always worked. Most people are passive.

                  The point being made, I think, is that Instagram is a greater source of motivation to interact with the outside world than Reddit/Gaming is.

                  It sounds plausible enough to me but who knows?

                  • lou1306 11 hours ago

                    You do have power onto your own feed (well, limited power). I snooze suggestions every month and follow basically zero content creators: I'd say 90% of my followees are people I've met irl. If I want to doomscroll and feel awful, the Explore/Reels tabs are more than enough.

              • chasd00 6 hours ago

                pokemon-go got a lot of people outdoors too. I would see kids walking around the neighborhood with their phones out looking for pokemon, it wasn't perfect but at least they were outside getting some air.

                • BigGreenJorts 5 hours ago

                  I stand by the meme: that summer was closest we've gotten to world peace.

                  • 0xEF 2 hours ago

                    It's still very popular in my area during the warmer weather. I don't play the game myself but it is quite nice to see, really and makes me feel a little better about my community, as silly as that sounds. When people get out and enjoy public spaces together, it nurtures a positive perspective.

                  • satyarthms 14 hours ago

                    I'm a connoisseur of plants growing in cracks in the pavement, mind sharing a link?

                    • camtarn 13 hours ago
                      • mattcantstop 12 hours ago

                        I'd be cool to create a simple template that you could repeat for each post in video form:

                        - The plant - The location (sidewalk, park, etc) - Native vs non-native? - Seen as a weed or flower/desirable plant? - Who pollinates it.

                        I just subscribed.

                        • satyarthms 12 hours ago

                          Nice pics, very heartwarming and solarpunk!

                          • camtarn 12 hours ago

                            Thank you! <3

                        • InDubioProRubio 13 hours ago

                          Bricky roads They trappers grass Stony walls They trappers wind Iron stove It trappers fire Trappers is we By the works of hands And forgets us We were ever free...

                        • risquer 12 hours ago

                          I really love that, would you mind sharing the insta?

                        • JadeNB 7 hours ago

                          I wonder how many of us picked up this habit from COVID? It definitely got me to appreciate my local flora way better, and the fact that I get weird looks for bending down to take pictures of tiny little insect and plant life is, well, let me be honest, I kind of enjoy being the neighborhood eccentric.

                          • drivers99 6 hours ago

                            During COVID I'd take a lot of walks, and in a similar way, it helped to have some kind of basically useless goal/destination in mind. For me it was checking out how construction in a nearby park was going, including what was happening in a temporary holding pond. I would send "pond updates" to my family in other states, which they found amusing. I got really interesting in all the different birds I was seeing and how the plants were growing. Now that I'm downtown, in a more "walkable" place, I don't really have the same variety of interesting natural things to see. Maybe I can think of something similar.

                            • camtarn 5 hours ago

                              Aw, that's a really lovely goal! A growing pond sounds like an excellent walking target - during lockdown I headed to my local reservoir quite a few times and just wandered around the path by its edge.

                              I also enjoy watching construction - I feel like in a different country and different life, I would have been an 'Umarell' (an elderly Italian man who stands watching construction sites)

                        • scosman 6 hours ago

                          Canadian here: I look forward to using my apps again in April.

                          • sexy_seedbox 3 hours ago

                            HongKonger here, no grass to be found in concrete jungle.

                          • racktash 13 hours ago

                            Fun idea!

                            I am always astounded how hard it can be to break doom scrolling as a habit DESPITE knowing how much better I feel when I can't / don't do it.

                            When I don't do it, I will often spend my time doing something personally productive, but even if I do nothing at all instead, it's still better – my head is clearer, I can think so much better; I feel more content and optimistic about life in general; time goes slower.

                            • saganus 10 hours ago

                              Dopamine addiction is very nasty.

                            • freetonik 13 hours ago

                              Very cool concept! I wanted to make a similar thing a few years ago, but for a slightly different purpose: force myself to walk more. I built an iOS app called Geostreaks [1] with a simple mechanic: pick an outdoor location (for example, a nearby park) and “check in” there every day.

                              I couldn’t justify the yearly developer fee though, so the app has been removed from the App Store a few years later :(

                              1. https://appadvice.com/app/geostreaks/1482655198

                            • basisword 14 hours ago

                              Nice idea. I feel like we don't see as many fun/whimsical apps these days as we did 10-15 years ago.

                              • vitaflo 14 hours ago

                                Whimsical doesn’t make money and we are a society of sellouts.

                                • Ginguin 13 hours ago

                                  We are a social species living in a world where everything is commodified, and to survive means trying to find a way to exist in that space. It creates a mindset where even a simple hobby needs to somehow create profit, because everything around us requires we have and/or create money over all of the less tangible things that actually make humans happy.

                                  Some people have the luxury of being able to step around that mindset, even if only for a little bit, but there is less and less space for just existing.

                                  • robocat 10 hours ago

                                    Well said. I hear my arty/crafty friends get recommended to sell their "works". Thinking of art as an investment is a scourge.

                                    Unfortunately money is useful, even if the game of chasing it is stupid and can be doomingly addictive. Looking after it for retirement is hell and trains one to be tight or a gambler.

                                    The worst part is that we all know other things are more important than money: most people seem to choose jobs for their invisible benefits rather than financial outcomes. Our world runs because of our internal goals rather than money. The teacher that wants to help their students. The taxi driver that just likes to meet people. The engineer that strives for perfection. Does Matt Levine write for money?

                                    The social incentives are whacko, and the government incentives are often insane. I have some admiration for those that find a way to get the benefits of society at the lowest time costs to themselves.

                                    We fear we live in a purely capitalist world - yet the invisible incentives (economic surplus) are what makes everything work. The danger of seeing everyone else as a money grubber, while knowing that we ourselves are driven by better motivations.

                                  • Cthulhu_ 12 hours ago

                                    The other factor is that there were too many "whimsical" apps, which were mostly variations of drinking beer, iphone guns, or fart apps. Apple cracked down hard on those by adding rules about similar / copycat apps or low value apps.

                                    • basisword 12 hours ago

                                      There were lots of those. Back when you could easily sell rubbish for 99¢ making copying popular apps possibly worthwhile. But there's still latitude for creativity. I came across this[1] Mac app at the end of last year which decorates your desktop with Christmas lights. Completely useless, but very fun and whimsical. I feel like there used to be more of this. There also used to be more creativity in functional apps too when development was less focussed on metrics/engagement. I feel like even the more fun indie apps started copying the 'big guys' with complex onboarding tutorials, gamification, and upselling. Maybe it was just because the platforms were newer and simpler back then. Maybe it's rose tinted glasses :)

                                      [1] https://simonbs.gumroad.com/l/festivitas

                                    • thecosas 10 hours ago

                                      Perhaps not all whimsy, but definitely take a look at https://www.creativeapplications.net/blog/ for some interesting stuff people are doing out there in the world.

                                      • thruway516 10 hours ago

                                        But when we had fart app everyone said civilization was coming to an end

                                        • basisword 7 hours ago

                                          I don't think that reaction was to the existence of them - merely the fact people were parting with money for them to the extent that developers were making significant money (short-term anyway). "Drinking" a pint, or blowing out the flame on a "lighter" were both quite cool moments for people when smartphones first arrived.

                                          • bigbuppo 6 hours ago

                                            It was that brief window of time that ended, partly because of the iphone, that technology could be or do anything. The world of infinite possibility.

                                            Now that costs $14.99/mo, but if you upgrade to the Pro Plus package for $23.95/mo, you get not only the fart feature, and the flame feature, but you get the flaming fart feature. Requires annual prepayment, otherwise price is $39.64/mo, excluding taxes and cost recovery fees.

                                        • hathawsh 9 hours ago

                                          I thought for a moment you were talking about https://whimsical.com/, which is productivity suite that people depend on for work. I wouldn't want to hear it's shutting down! Then I realized you're talking about the concept of whimsical things, not a company. Whew!

                                          • SketchySeaBeast 13 hours ago

                                            Is it possible that we're not as comfortable as we were a decade ago? I'll admit to having no aspirations to make that next killer app, but that's because I'm fairly financially secure, not wealthy by any means, but a decent paying job with a pension, and I know that's a privileged position the days.

                                            • vitaflo 13 hours ago

                                              People always say this but it tends to be the poor broke art kids who create some crazy cool shit for the hell of it that eventually becomes commodified.

                                          • beAbU 14 hours ago

                                            Geolocate the user to ensure that at least the touching of a picture of grass tookplace outside.

                                            • aembleton 12 hours ago

                                              And then update that location on OSM as having grass

                                            • oever 7 hours ago

                                              Here's a whimsical site I made a few years ago. You can look up grasses and other lifeforms and see how they are related.

                                              https://sol.vandenoever.info/?lang=en,nl&uids=119845,135774,...

                                              • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                Thank you! It's a silly idea but it does actually work for me

                                                • mhh__ 14 hours ago

                                                  iBeer seems so quaint now

                                                  • y-curious 13 hours ago

                                                    Check out this fake lighter app I have

                                                • bloopernova 13 hours ago

                                                  I added reddit.com to uBlock Origin's filters list. I can still visit it, but there's now a screen asking me if I'm sure I want to go there. It's stopped me a few times, and it's breaking that muscle memory of "pick up phone & check reddit/etc"

                                                  • redox99 9 hours ago

                                                    Reddit has gotten so bad over the last decade that I've stopped browsing it altogether, except for one or two niche subreddits every now and then.

                                                    • darknavi 8 hours ago

                                                      I am really hoping they kill old.reddit.com so I can finally cut it off completely.

                                                      • 65 3 hours ago

                                                        Every god damn subreddit gets infested with political content it's hard to browse. And even if you want to get more niche in depth content, most of the time subreddits will be filled with extremely beginner, basic questions.

                                                      • cryptopian 12 hours ago

                                                        A few years back, I realised how bad the addiction was when I deleted a couple of apps. While doing other things on my phone, I'd autopilot going to the apps list and tapping the empty space where Reddit/Twitter used to be. You're right, that little bit of friction is enough to make you stop and ask "what am I really getting out of this?"

                                                        • bigbuppo 6 hours ago

                                                          Google+ is still part of my muscle memory. It was such a pleasant place when they stopped mandating people use it.

                                                          • Acrobatic_Road 4 hours ago

                                                            I'm not familiar with how those filter lists work. What do I have to enter to get a screen like this?

                                                            • hartator 13 hours ago

                                                              What about the app?

                                                              • nostromo 8 hours ago

                                                                The reddit app is so bad, it may actually have been designed to end addiction to reddit.

                                                                • bloopernova 12 hours ago

                                                                  I have never installed it.

                                                                  I prefer to access things through a web browser.

                                                                  • cryptopian 12 hours ago

                                                                    I actually found that certain browser equivalents of attention sucking apps were poor quality enough that using them only through the browser was enough friction to wean myself off them. old.reddit.com is especially badly optimised for anything other than a desktop screen.

                                                                    • kjkjadksj 11 hours ago

                                                                      Old.reddit.com is the only way reddit loads on my se2. The actual mobile website just times out with half the comments loaded every time. A lot of noticeable lag. It is a super heavy site in comparison with old.reddit.com.

                                                                      • whamlastxmas 11 hours ago

                                                                        For me, it’s that I have a million keyword and subreddit filters on my desktop computer and Reddit is unreadable for me without those filters, so I never read it on my phone

                                                                • duxup 15 hours ago

                                                                  This is going to be rough up north where I am, too much snow.

                                                                  • adverbly 14 hours ago

                                                                    Same problem here... Trying to think of some substitutions:

                                                                    1. Touch snow

                                                                    2. See the sun while outdoors.

                                                                    3. Say hi to someone in person.

                                                                    4. Text a friend or family member.

                                                                    5. Touch a tree.

                                                                    I think touch a tree would be the most direct substitution. Something to be said for a social substitution too though, but it probably doesn't match the initial intent of touching grass.

                                                                    • madmountaingoat 13 hours ago

                                                                      Of course no one needs an app to do any of this, but the general idea of getting out and touching a tree, climbing a snowbank, going out without a coat or hat for a few minutes when it's freezing are all the sorts of things that keep me happy during in the winter.

                                                                      • rob74 13 hours ago

                                                                        Besides, depending on your location, touching a tree might also be more hygienic than touching grass (e.g. if you happen to be in an area used for dog-walking).

                                                                      • hmmm-i-wonder 14 hours ago

                                                                        Its all ice and snow outside. I'd be locked out for a while

                                                                        Then again maybe that would be a good thing.

                                                                        • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                          I plan on letting the user select what they have to touch, for launch it's just grass but customisation is on the way!

                                                                          • moolcool 14 hours ago

                                                                            I'm up in icy Canada, but a social media hibernation might do me well.

                                                                            • duxup 14 hours ago

                                                                              As fast as some social media circles move I imagine come spring it's possible to not understand the context of most of what is being posted.

                                                                              • cjbgkagh 14 hours ago

                                                                                Sounds like a good way for a temporary fix to become a permanent one.

                                                                              • alaithea 10 hours ago

                                                                                Hibernating? Touch Bear.

                                                                                You'll never use social media again.

                                                                              • ge96 13 hours ago

                                                                                Make an Instagram of tiny snowmen with different scarves

                                                                                • paulddraper 8 hours ago

                                                                                  Me too.

                                                                                  Touch snow.

                                                                                  • johnmaguire 12 hours ago

                                                                                    Grab a shovel!

                                                                                    • Etheryte 14 hours ago

                                                                                      From touch grass to shovel snow for a while and then touch grass.

                                                                                      • thruway516 10 hours ago

                                                                                        Build startup and exit for +$20m before you can unlock your apps for the extra motivated

                                                                                      • Gys 14 hours ago

                                                                                        Dark times...

                                                                                      • benfarahmand 7 hours ago

                                                                                        three's 2 feet of snow on the ground. there's no grass. what do i do? can we get an update to touch snow?

                                                                                        • silisili 6 hours ago

                                                                                          Keep a little patch of turf on the table next to your armchair, and you can touch grass without ever even getting up.

                                                                                        • pcthrowaway 13 hours ago

                                                                                          People are just going to carry a patch of fake grass around with them to bypass the checks. So I suspect the reviews will be astroturfed.

                                                                                          • asystole 11 hours ago

                                                                                            This is on the order of the "descartes before the whores" joke on reddit years ago. Generational stuff

                                                                                            • jakelazaroff 12 hours ago

                                                                                              Maybe the best joke I've seen in ~10 years of regularly checking this site, 10/10

                                                                                              • vladdrak 10 hours ago

                                                                                                “Fresh Patch Indoor Potty Grass” is going to make a killing out of this.

                                                                                                • oniony 12 hours ago

                                                                                                  Why bother you when you dye your private turf green?

                                                                                                  • dkenyser 13 hours ago

                                                                                                    This gave me a good chortle. Thanks.

                                                                                                    • myvoiceismypass 10 hours ago

                                                                                                      Reviewing this app is a sod job, but someone's gotta do it

                                                                                                      • jnsie 11 hours ago

                                                                                                        Brilliant!

                                                                                                        • m3kw9 11 hours ago

                                                                                                          Just google grass pics? The thing is if you are gonna cheat anyways you can just not use the app and you “win”

                                                                                                          • not_wyoming 12 hours ago

                                                                                                            /r/angryupvote

                                                                                                            :)

                                                                                                          • jsnelgro 3 hours ago

                                                                                                            I wrote an apple shortcut last year that notifies me with a random item from my todo list after five minutes of having an "addicting" app open. It sort of helps to jog me out of mindless scrolling, but I still ignore it a lot of the time. At the very least, it helps repeatedly remind me of things I aspire to do someday (I keep big picture ideas and projects in certain lists)

                                                                                                            • yssrnjm 10 hours ago

                                                                                                              App not recommended for Canadians. Unless someone makes a 'touch snow' plugin.

                                                                                                              • redeux 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                Same for people who live in the Southwest US, unless someone makes a 'touch dirt' or 'touch cactus' plugin.

                                                                                                              • Anonboxis 4 hours ago

                                                                                                                The European Union is about to introduce a regulation on infinite scrolling called the Digital Fairness Act. They are currently looking for ideas, so, thanks for sharing.

                                                                                                                Seriously this is really cool!

                                                                                                                • Baggie 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                  my neighborhood is very low on grass will tree support be added? I like them better and we have a lot more of them

                                                                                                                  sincerely, Lorax

                                                                                                                  • szszrk 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                    A/B testing. You got a high difficulty variant.

                                                                                                                    • BobAliceInATree 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                      I live in the middle of Manhattan not near a park. There is zero grass near me that I would touch.

                                                                                                                    • simondanerd 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                      Is there an Android version coming soon?

                                                                                                                      Also it would be better if you kept Instagram uninstalled... I see it installing on the screenshot!

                                                                                                                      • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                        Soon...ish Android equivalent is hard but it is in the back of my mind!

                                                                                                                        • aeve890 9 hours ago

                                                                                                                          Wdym is hard? Hard like is harder to make apps for Android than iOS? Genuinely curious

                                                                                                                          • feznyng 8 hours ago

                                                                                                                            iOS has a system level API for this sort of thing. Android does not.

                                                                                                                            • risquer 6 hours ago

                                                                                                                              Yeah you basically need to write your own screen time api for android and use the draw over permission - it's going to be an interesting build for sure!

                                                                                                                          • mikragor 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                            Technically, the icon displays the app as paused from the time limit. Once you surpass the time limit using the app, you can stop using it or allow you temporarily (1 minute to 15 minutes or stop limiting the usage for today) to continue to use it. It's a neat option to have this on your phone, but I usually keep expanding my time limit more than just quitting the app. I think that's what this app is aiming for, allowing you to use the app more time requires more effort than 2 taps.

                                                                                                                          • Oras 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                            I had an idea to lock my phone until I burn x calories. So, I cannot see notifications or open any app unless I achieve the goal. When I checked, it was impossible to do that with Apple, It's great to know that you can lock apps, though! I love the concept.

                                                                                                                            • moontear 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                              How is it blocking other apps? Is it creating apple shortcuts which go through this app as a launcher?

                                                                                                                              • queueueue 4 hours ago

                                                                                                                                Apple has a screentime API which allows the app/dev to block an app after the user chooses it

                                                                                                                              • wcfrobert 11 hours ago

                                                                                                                                This is so bizarre! We live in a world where companies invest billions and hire the best researchers all to capture our attention and serve ads. And now, to claw back any sort of agency, we resort to this.

                                                                                                                                • etothepii 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                  One sec was great for breaking my YouTube shorts habit but the safari plugin only works 90% of the time and in some way the "gambling nature" of hitting reload and getting in sometimes has made it worse.

                                                                                                                                  • dudefeliciano 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                    I love this, the internet needs more of these weird concept apps. As another commenter mentioned, perhaps this could be extended for people that don't have grass around them due to season/location? Touch snow, touch sand, etc

                                                                                                                                    • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                      Thanks man! I plan on letting the user set what they have to touch, it's on the roadmap!

                                                                                                                                      • FollowingTheDao 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                        "I love this app that gets me off of my phone!"

                                                                                                                                        "We need more apps!"

                                                                                                                                        Can we just sit and mediate and listen to ourselves grasping?

                                                                                                                                        • dudefeliciano 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                          Uhm I think you misunderstood me. What I meant is that I love these trivial, fun, silly apps that make the internet more interesting. You can certainly sit and meditate whenever you want

                                                                                                                                      • tibbetts 11 hours ago

                                                                                                                                        Needs a mode where touching snow counts.

                                                                                                                                        • alaithea 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                          I was thinking the same. Grass is hard to come by in my neck of the woods right now. Maybe "touch bark?"

                                                                                                                                          • KMnO4 11 hours ago

                                                                                                                                            Just don't doomscroll until spring.

                                                                                                                                            • layer8 11 hours ago

                                                                                                                                              Google for “indoor grass”.

                                                                                                                                            • woadwarrior01 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                              Why does the app need to collect location data?

                                                                                                                                              • SSLy 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                1. Information Collection 1.1 Required Permissions

                                                                                                                                                    Location: Used solely to determine local sunset times; location data is not stored or transmitted
                                                                                                                                                • Cthulhu_ 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                  Wouldn't checking the time (which should include TZ data) and comparing it with a database be adequate or can you not get local timezone data without permissions?

                                                                                                                                                  • SSLy 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                    no, the timezones can be very very long north to south

                                                                                                                                                    • busymom0 11 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                      You can get local timezone data without permissions in iOS.

                                                                                                                                                      But I think the OP's app is using the location data to ensure you walked a few meters to touch grass and not just have a patch of grass at your desk.

                                                                                                                                                    • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                      Yeah exactly, thanks!

                                                                                                                                                    • andy_ppp 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                      Presumably you don't need to let the app have access for it to work?

                                                                                                                                                      • tonyhart7 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                        to locate user location ofcourse

                                                                                                                                                        • m_mueller 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                          are you telling me it actually checks the GPS coordinates against satellite images? ....

                                                                                                                                                        • lee 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                          You can probably expand your user base to Canadians by also adding a "touching snow" feature.

                                                                                                                                                          • bbarnett 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                            A white wall would qualify, so maybe you'd have to pee a letter into the snow to unlock.

                                                                                                                                                            • aeve890 9 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                              Nah too easy. Pee a QR code, then scan the QR to validate.

                                                                                                                                                          • hyperific 8 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                            Kudos on getting your project from conception to the finish line!

                                                                                                                                                            The concept of having to interact with the natural world before being allowed to interact with the social media world is interesting and this is perhaps the most interesting implementation of that.

                                                                                                                                                            Personally I find it's rewarding to flex the "self restraint muscle" by stopping myself from doomscrolling rather than relying on technology to do that for me.

                                                                                                                                                            • NalNezumi 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                              Awesome idea.

                                                                                                                                                              But knowing myself, I'll probably just end up buying a plant and put it next to my table and end up using it

                                                                                                                                                              • ColeShepherd 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                I would love an app with a configurable "unlock" task. Ex:

                                                                                                                                                                - Do a quick mindfulness/breathing exercise.

                                                                                                                                                                - Answer a quick quiz question related to something you're learning.

                                                                                                                                                                - Remind you of pending to-dos

                                                                                                                                                                Anyone know of an app like this?

                                                                                                                                                              • keyle 5 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                Back in the day we used to just make a fart button on a web UI. The level of dedication at this stage is beyond me!

                                                                                                                                                                Well done.

                                                                                                                                                                Please detect dog droppings near hand, for a wash hand notification.

                                                                                                                                                                • mateusfreira 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                  Can we change it to unblock only when I do 10 pushups? I would love to get that to my Nephew and Nieces phone

                                                                                                                                                                  • kinduff 2 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                    I laughed out loud, great concept and use of technology!

                                                                                                                                                                    • Yhippa 7 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                      This is great, OP. For someone like me who is addicted to my phone in the house, it would be nice if there was some arbitrary object at the opposite side of the house I could touch to trigger this.

                                                                                                                                                                      Anybody here know an Android equivalent of this?

                                                                                                                                                                      • yobananaboy 9 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                        This is sick! Is it using an LLM's photo detection to determine if it is a picture of touching grass?

                                                                                                                                                                        I recently added all of my most distracting apps to the Hidden section on iPhone. It requires a FaceID check to even see the apps, and blocks all notifications from them. It has helped me cut down on the scroll-time significantly.

                                                                                                                                                                        • risquer 8 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                          It's using Google's vision api - so Machine Learning but not LLM

                                                                                                                                                                        • stego-tech 6 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                          Great concept, solid privacy policy and terms of service, and an excellent use of premium purchases to support rewilding projects. Absolutely love it!

                                                                                                                                                                          • nofunphil 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                            Love this. But wonder if it would work better if there was an incentive tied to using your phone less, ie. Rewards points for staying off socials.

                                                                                                                                                                            • wkirby 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                              This is fun, but there's an amusing oxymoron embedded in needing an app on my phone to verify that I'm... not using my phone

                                                                                                                                                                              • jofzar 4 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                I love your demo showing you ignoring the rate and review like a true user

                                                                                                                                                                                • mclau156 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                  I have had an idea like this but instead it is a few minutes of breathing exercises with a calm nature background, then it unlocks your other apps

                                                                                                                                                                                  • nosmokewhereiam 4 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                    Love the idea and the app looks great! Originality and artsy-smartsy, kudos!

                                                                                                                                                                                    • klntsky 2 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                      No phone during winter

                                                                                                                                                                                      • speerer 6 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                        I wish you all success and hope that this catches on. I will make a fortune by selling little pots of turf to social media addicts.

                                                                                                                                                                                        • NotAnOtter 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                          I bit of UX tweaking and this could see a lot of traction as a snarky reply, a la "Let me google that for you".

                                                                                                                                                                                          • kayson 7 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                            How is it that an app can block access to other apps?

                                                                                                                                                                                          • izhak 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                            I live in Finland. Any chance I can get a "touch snow" option? Thanks.

                                                                                                                                                                                            • aqueueaqueue 6 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                              This is great! No good for urban junglists though. Or maybe really good for them, depending on how you view it.

                                                                                                                                                                                              • bloomingkales 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                What if someone tries to cheat and just touch a picture of grass? You need to understand that the no-touch-grass people are Machiavellian.

                                                                                                                                                                                                • seafoamteal 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                  The only person they're cheating is themselves. Any systems designed to help you curb phone addictions only work if you do the legwork and are in the mindset of wanting to improve. The systems are only guardrails to lean on when you're tired. If you decide to vault the rails, that's not sustainable in any way.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  • loloquwowndueo 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                    You’re cheating yourself in that case. Or to put it another way, if you really don’t want to comply you can just delete the app.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah, just echoing what people have replied but I did try put some safeguards in such as screens - if it detects a screen it won't unblock your apps

                                                                                                                                                                                                    • popol12 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Very nice, but why does it require iOS 17 ? Jailbreakers are stuck on iOS 16 (and some are stuck even lower than that.. )

                                                                                                                                                                                                      • hombre_fatal 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I can't speak for this app, but every time I use SwiftUI, it turns out some basic thing I want, like the component or API method that is perfect for my app, was introduced in the latest iOS/macOS release. Every single dang time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Cthulhu_ 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                          iOS 17 is from Sept 2023, it is considered obsolete. Current -1 is a very normal and decent support window, and supporting that covers >90% of active installations.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        • freeone3000 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I have a user issue: there is currently 3 feet of snow outside and no grass to be seen :P

                                                                                                                                                                                                          • zawaideh 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Can I touch snow instead? There is no grass in sight in Canada this time of the year

                                                                                                                                                                                                            • jjkaczor 11 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Same thought... ("Instructions unclear, all I see around me is snow")

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Never worry, it will melt when the scorched-earth tactics are used...

                                                                                                                                                                                                              /s

                                                                                                                                                                                                            • divbzero 7 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                              What happens if it’s the middle of winter and the grass is completely covered with snow?

                                                                                                                                                                                                              • awslattery 11 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                DLC for a dust mode, for those of us in Southern Arizona?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                • awaseem 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Damn I love this! how was the process of getting approval from the app store? Wondering if you had to send videos instead of having reviewers touch grass. I launched Foqos earlier this month: https://github.com/awaseem/foqos and the review was brutal plus the form you need to submit to get permissions for Family activity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Review was surprisingly simple, no videos or anything needed. I submitted at 11PM by 11:30PM it was approved, I've never experienced that for a new app...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • awaseem 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Damn so jealous haha. Love the app happy to support in anyway!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • mig39 8 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Love it!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    How does it handle -20ºC in snow-covered Northern Canada? :-) Can I touch fake indoor grass?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • jjkaczor 11 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Instructions unclear, all I see around me is snow...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • tsylba 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I understand it's a meme, but you're not "touching grass" if you need the mediation of an app to do so.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's engineer logic 101, when technically true does not mean ontologically true.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Chris2048 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I think this is understood, and the app is partly satirical.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • crsv 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I bet you’re fun at parties.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • baxtr 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Great concept! However my mind started already coming up with ideas how to circumvent this like printing out a color picture of grass! Hope you can detect these fake attempts! :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Cthulhu_ 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If you have no intent of using the app, why install it in the first place?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              But then, the purpose is less about going out and touching grass physically, and more about being aware of what you're spending your time on. A moment of self-reflection, if you will, and whether that's you going outside to find some grass or finding where you put your colour picture of grass and turning the lights on to get a good picture of it is by the by.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • DisruptiveDave 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Ya know what, searching for a picture, printing it out, and taking a pic in this app = not doomscrolling, so, mission accomplished?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • rainpl 6 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Can you make a desert version to touch some rocks?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • vlucas 6 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I feel bad for all the folks who live in Arizona...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • MisterSandman 6 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Or Canada… during the winter at least.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • zuluonezero 7 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    No thanks my closest grass is covered in dog pee!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • namuol 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Cute, but it might be time to ditch your smartphone if you really want to change.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • lukeinator42 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        This is great! A mode for snow would be awesome, haha. Up here in Canada there isn't always grass around in winter.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • fandorin 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          great concept! out of curiosity - what tool did you use to create the main UI app animation/video on the website?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • risquer 9 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's a screen recording of my phone and then my fiancée used canva to do the background

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • gkamer8 3 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Lmao really fun. I guess you're using a network request, but I wonder if you can access the models that the photos app seems to use locally.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Lynix48 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Funny how even the demo on their website has the annoying "rate this app" popup.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                pls r8 5*

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • begueradj 9 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                What if you live in the Sahara or a dry country ?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • brailsafe 8 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Maybe they need to add the option of touching cactus or sand?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • divan 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Works fine in Finland in winter!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • linklater12 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This is very cool. Congrats! I love it when apps force you to step outside. Pokemon Go was such a brilliant game in this regard! Wish we had more apps like this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • theodric 4 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      This is fire. Sent it to a few people. I don't use an iPhone as my daily, unfortunately.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Android port? I'd pay you €0.99 at least!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • dev0p 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That is fantastic. Should come preinstalled with every phone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • harrison_clarke 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          fun idea

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          i'm not going to see any grass for another few months, unless i travel somewhere warmer, though

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • tonymet 9 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            very creative. what would it take to make it function offline?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • blitzar 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Not a Hot Dog.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                grass

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • blitzar 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not hotdog.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • rightbyte 5 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Interesting concept. I would say not being able to touch grass when it is covered in snow, like right now, might be a feature.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • FollowingTheDao 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Fun idea, but not the right way to end an addiction. Making it more difficult to get the dopamine (really epinephrine) hit will only lead to more frustration and reinforce the relief when you get your reward. In other words, it only makes the reward more pleasurable.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Cthulhu_ 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    What if the author adds some gamification strategies and awards the users points depending on how often, long, and diverse their grass-touching is, and add an infinite scroll feed of other users touching grass, which you can then upvote and engage with!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    (please sign up to my onlygrass page)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • gradientsrneat 8 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Many digital addictions only work due to the fast feedback loop. If you break the feedback loop, you can break the addiction.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • adaboese 8 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hilarious!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • gdiocarez 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What the ....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • andy_ppp 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Okay this might help!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • yieldcrv 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            What I would love is social unlock, where your friends have to approve or deny your requests

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I didn't realize there was a screen time api! I was waiting on Apple to do it, now I'll have to do it and wait for Apple to commit an antitrust violation and do it after it gains traction!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • luxuryballs 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I was thinking about this recently and was trying to determine if I could take advantage of some kind of accessibility settings or otherwise to contextually/periodically disable the gestures that doom scrolling depends on entirely, on fly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • allears 11 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Obviously for urbanites only. Here in Northern California, grass is a conspicuous waste of water, and is slowly going out of favor and being replaced by native xerophilic plants. Our neighbor has a lawn, but we've got wood chips and native shrubs instead.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                If we all acknowledge that nature is an antidote to anxiety, why not consider moving out of the city?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • 20wenty 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I like the idea but it will be hard to build a moat -- if that's something you care about. How about making it more general? "touch grass", "feel sand between your fingers", "hug a tree" ...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm not quite sure what you mean by build a moat, could you explain further?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • tredre3 8 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's startup culture speak to describe something that is unique and impossible/hard to copy for competitors.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I think (hope) that 20wenty was being cheeky and playing along the all-too-common vibe that every project presented on HN needs to become financially successful or else it's a waste of time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • notachatbot123 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thank you for providing a perfect comment to reply "touch grass" to.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Retr0id 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      See also: https://graas.easrng.net/ - "grass-touching verification service"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        TGAAS

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • apriljo 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What do you do in the winter, eh?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • HPsquared 6 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Touch the grass, not the glass.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Or, "Don't touch the glass!"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • parsimo2010 11 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Imagine going to a ski resort and being locked out of your apps in the evening because everything is covered in snow.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • diamondfist25 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Wow what a great idea and all!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mind if I ask what stack you used for this?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sure! It's SwiftUI, Google vision and Screen time API

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • api 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Are there any good anti-procrastination Safari extensions for desktop? Sometimes it can be hypnotic.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • Waterluvian 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I love it. And now I must make a “touching grass generator” to plug into the front of this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • ahmadtbk 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Spending many hours not touching grass to build an app that makes you touch grass. I like it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • archon810 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      If by many hours you mean probably 30 minutes in ChatGPT, then yes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • twothamendment 10 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It might be awhile before I can touch grass. There is quite a bit of snow on the ground!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • tsunego 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Reminds me of Pokémon go

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • ewalk153 15 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nice idea. Would be great to have a winter mode for us that can’t literally touch grass for 3+ months a year ;)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • loloquwowndueo 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            3 months? Short winters ftw!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • wiether 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'm afraid to ask, but on the demo video... Is that dog poop next to the hand?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • risquer 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              just mud haha

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Chris2048 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              On a tangential note.. Best use of a "touch grass" reference goes to Noita devs:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1bt7aid/streamer_sp...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • p_ing 13 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Dunk is a real gem to watch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • maxehmookau 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I hate this and I love it. Good work.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • yapyap 12 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  bro has grass touching IAPa

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • obrhoff 14 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Is Hacker News the new Product Hunt?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • nostromo 8 hours ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hacker News was Product Hunt before Product Hunt was born.