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  • bombela 36 minutes ago

    This looks cool. I am a bit off topic here. But my only fear is this entices some people to make it the default in terminals over time.

    Like all moderne UIs now have animations, ranging from very slow to barely fast enough for my personal perception.

    And it becomes increasingly hard to disable those animations. They creep up absolutely everywhere. And they drive me crazy. I want my computer to act instantaneously. Redraw within 8ms.

    Almost all animations are also impossible to abort or skip. Worse plenty will animate concurrently. So you might be jumping around on a webpage faster than the animation, which then jumps you back to then slowly animate.

    My life on this planet is finite. A computer isstupidly fast. Why waste my precious lifetime? How many minute of life do developers of animations steal from people?

    I do understand that I process visual stimulus faster than most people. Making me an outlier. Modern interfaces are devoided of identifiable buttons and all look like a smear of emptiness with a few dollops of text and burger icons to interact with. Making it hard to notice what changed between two actions. Maybe increasing the need for animations to help people follow

    In any case, I suffer greatly with animations.

    • baq a day ago

      This is way cooler than I expected.

      It's an over-the-top animation of a terminal cursor moving from position to position, helps notice where it moved to. I thought it'll be something about mouse cursor animations. I could see myself using this if a) I was using more TUI apps and b) it'd be toned down quite a bit.

      • jasonjmcghee 21 hours ago

        I think was popularized by Neovide

        https://neovide.dev/features.html#animated-cursor

        • nine_k 21 hours ago

          Here it's less dramatic and hence more useful.

          I wish more terminals implemented something similar.

          • tombh 20 hours ago

            Author here, I just chose the fire cursor for the demo. There are lots of other shaders available, eg https://github.com/KroneCorylus/ghostty-shader-playground/tr..., they have a simple smear cursor like Neovide's.

            • nine_k 20 hours ago

              The fire is perfect for the demo, and for screencasts maybe.

              • throwanem 16 hours ago

                Strong second.

          • danieldk 10 hours ago

            Kitty also supports them with the cursor_trail option: https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/conf/#opt-kitty.cursor_trail

            • echelon 21 hours ago

              I never knew this was a thing.

              This is so fucking cool. I'm going to add this right away.

            • tombh 20 hours ago

              The home page has GIFs of both a simpler smear-fade cursor and a wilder manga-slash cursor https://tattoy.sh

            • Rendello 20 hours ago

              Reminds me of the old Compiz plugin that would make your windows burst into flames on closing.

              • andrepd 20 hours ago

                Compiz effects was truly the killer feature for Linux for 12 year old me :)

                • Rendello 13 hours ago

                  14 year-old me set up Linux Mint with this LSD Conky display for my grandmother. I said something like "Well technically it's LSD but it looks cool so don't worry about it".

                  https://github.com/matmutant/LSD-Conky

                  • eMPee584 7 hours ago

                    in hindsight, I do regret not yet being able to supply my <3 grandma with a small dose, might have condoled her senseless fury (dementia rage or so).. RIP

            • kingforaday 20 hours ago

              I applaud this effort and think it is amazing graphically for a tty, but serious question: does anyone use this as their daily driver?

              • tombh 19 hours ago

                I'm the creator of Tattoy, so thanks. A significant part of the motivation for the project is that it's fun, like a "toy", as the name suggests. I do use it everyday, but only for one serious usecase, to allow my Twitch chatters to visually interact with my terminal by sending emotes to it. I'm not personally into the animated cursors, they were just easy to implement because I'd already built out support for Ghostty's background shaders.

                But, if you want a truly serious usecase, then my pipe dream is that Tattoy becomes the "XWayland" for an entirely new protocol for terminals that explores moving on from ANSI codes, the terminfo database and so on. I wrote a blog post about this idea: https://tattoy.sh/news/an-end-to-terminal-ansi-codes

                • VTimofeenko 14 hours ago

                  As in the cursor trailing to new position? I use it, albeit on a different emulator.

                  Greatly helps when demoing something from my terminal and having multiple splits open.

                • magicalhippo 12 hours ago

                  Looks very nice and fun, and potentially very useful. I was going to say I'd prefer a gradient effect to emulate motion blur, but stepping through the video I see you've already implemented something like that.

                  However, when making large moves, it seems a bit disorienting and the gradient effect seems very subtle in the video. Perhaps make the effect depend on distance, like actual motion blur would?

                  I was also thinking about having a color shift when moving up vs moving down, not sure about that one but certainly something I'd play with.

                  • tombh 2 hours ago

                    I think this is something that is quite actively being explored in the Ghostty community. And Tattoy automatically benefits from that because it supports the very same cursor shaders. You could check out the Ghostty Discord if you're interested. And of course you can experiment with your own cursor shaders, they follow the same syntax as Shader Toy: https://tattoy.sh/docs/shaders

                  • thanhhaimai 19 hours ago

                    For a demo of the new Cursor feature in Ghostty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enwDjM7pNNE

                    • coldblues 20 hours ago
                      • pimlottc 21 hours ago

                        I assumed this meant mouse cursors, so I was confused why the pointer didn’t move in the same video. Would have been better just to turn it off for the recording.

                        • ionwake 19 hours ago

                          I installed it with homebrew but I dont see this shader tracer, I even see the blue pixel top right. Ive read the docs but it doesnt seem to explain if I need to do anything further which means it must be my already customised iterm which is the issue. Ill see if I can sort it.

                          • tombh 19 hours ago

                            The creator here, sounds like I need to improve the docs. Did you set `enabled = true` in the `[animated_cursors]` section of the config? If so, then this could be bug, and I'd be very grateful for a report in the repo's issues: https://github.com/tattoy-org/tattoy

                            • Vlasar 12 hours ago

                              Sorry if I’m missing something, but isn’t the homebrew version outdated?

                              • tombh 2 hours ago

                                Oh! You weren't missing anything, the automated Homebrew builds have been giving false positive successes since v0.1.3. I've updated it to v0.1.7 now. Thank you for mentioning this.

                              • ionwake 19 hours ago

                                tbh im not sure what Im doing wrong, I already have a highly customised iterm window and have spent a hour with chatgpt trying to troubleshoot this to no avail... must just be my setup for some reason. I will let you know if I figure it out - thanks

                            • isoprophlex 21 hours ago

                              Barely useable, pfff. Needs at least two out of three of

                              - airhorn and/or light saber sound effects,

                              - a sixel-based rendering of lens flares, or

                              - a fluid dynamics engine to simulate rippling of characters around the path along which the cursor moves

                              (Joke, looks very cool even though i'd probably find it too distracting)

                              • Nevermark 21 hours ago

                                > - airhorn and/or light saber sound effects,

                                I will take the light saber sounds.

                                With stereo-spacial transformation, so the sounds "direction" and "distance" match my own physical dynamic orientation relative to the cursor's motion on the screen.

                                And, the ability to open a small window, which gives me the cursor's visual point-of-view, as it zooms through the graphics on the screen.

                                Also, each traversed character should get "hot" as the curser goes over it, indicated with a stable glow for a quarter of a second, followed by an exponential fade over another second.

                                I think we can all agree that when in flow, functional distractions need to work harder, be more immersive, to be effective.

                                • 0xFEE1DEAD 6 hours ago

                                  Testimonial:

                                  > I've never been asked to pair up eversince I've started using tattoy

                                  • somat 19 hours ago
                                  • eviks 11 hours ago

                                    Have you ever lost track of the cursor to require a trail? (and if yes, what shape/color was the cursor)

                                    • iforgotpassword 9 hours ago

                                      Yes, happens occasionally. I just wiggle it left/right or up/down so I can see where it is. No big deal. But put of curiosity I might still try that one day, with a more subtle effect though. ;)

                                      • eviks 9 hours ago

                                        What's the shape/color? I guess, non-blinking?

                                        (they have other effects, check effects in neovide for better defaults)

                                    • ipsum2 15 hours ago

                                      Wonder what this looks like in asciinema. Does it show up properly?

                                      I wasn't able to get this working. MacOS, homebrew, added [animated_cursor] to the tattoy.toml and the glsl file.

                                      • tombh 15 hours ago

                                        It very much should work on asciinema, it's all pure text after all.

                                        I'd very much appreciate a bug report. It looks like maybe Tattoy isn't connecting to the GPU on Mac: https://github.com/tattoy-org/tattoy/issues/129

                                      • mholm 21 hours ago

                                        iTerm2 has a basic animated cursor that I like, just a frame or two long, and fairly subtle. It would be nice if it expanded to support this type of animation, I do wish it were a bit more visible (though not, perhaps, the EDM show presented)

                                        • knodi123 an hour ago

                                          This (OP) project is inspired by neovide, a recent neovim gui. And iterm2's animated cursor is a brand new feature, also inspired by neovide.

                                          Honestly, iterm2 is way too nice a piece of software considering the price. A real labor of love from a guy who apparently has lots more free time than me. :-)

                                        • renewiltord 21 hours ago

                                          This is pretty cool. Helps trace where the cursor is going. I prefer the Ghostty style now that I see it, but nonetheless cool UI feature.

                                          • getflourish 19 hours ago

                                            Inspiring. So cool, yet useful.

                                            • o11c 20 hours ago

                                              Honestly, just `:set cursorcolumn` is far more useful. Less distractions at the moment of change, but still visible if you alt-tab back.

                                              • dangoodmanUT 20 hours ago

                                                i swear to god i can hear the laser sounds

                                                • incognito124 19 hours ago

                                                  Love to see another atuin user