• TomMasz an hour ago

    Windows 7 was the last really good Windows. MS lost sight of the goal after that.

    • juujian 25 minutes ago

      Windows 7 kind of pulled me back from Ubuntu. Alas it was only for a few years.

      • honeycrispy an hour ago

        Nadella lost sight of the goal. Windows 7 was Ballmer.

        • skrebbel an hour ago

          Nadella more than 10x'ed the value of Microsoft. I doubt many MS execs think it was the wrong call to move Windows work to the B team.

          • honeycrispy 32 minutes ago

            That mindset is why every tech product is turning to shit. They're not consumer focused. All Nadella cares about is making the stock price go up and extracting value.

            • emchammer 15 minutes ago

              It’s the same with Apple. Sure, their product is proprietary, but the producers are not the only ones with a stake in it.

              • 2OEH8eoCRo0 15 minutes ago

                At some point we went through the looking glass where the stock is the product.

              • yndoendo 21 minutes ago

                Stock price does not equal good software. Quite the opposite because your trying to exploit the end user for more profit.

                • agildehaus 32 minutes ago

                  Through Azure, Office, LinkedIn, gaming. Not so much Windows.

                  • jack_pp 28 minutes ago

                    They're fucking up even gaming, that awful gamebar is a pain to disable. Had to do it from powershell and even after it's gone Alt + W won't work in games.

                    • 306bobby 22 minutes ago

                      I have a de-bloated win11 build running on my gaming rig, and I still occasionally get the prompt "no program to open link: ms-gamebar://" or something similar

                  • ranger_danger 43 minutes ago

                    I'm assuming they were referring to a non-monetary goal.

                • mschuster91 40 minutes ago

                  Windows 10 is decent if you have the Pro version. 7 is good but is a PITA on touchscreen or HiDPI devices, although I have to say even 10 still has its bugs. Never tried 11 though, I'll keep riding 10 on my machines.

                  • Krssst 34 minutes ago

                    Windows 10 was the start of the forceful push towards use of Microsoft accounts and telemetry, dark patterns to achieve that and weird features nobody wants like like Bing search in the menu or the help opening bing in Edge rather than an actual help or your browser of choice, all that to improve random KPIs without considering user satisfaction.

                    Compared to that, Windows 8 was misguided but not a strong attempt at disrespecting user consent.

                • merpkz 41 minutes ago

                  Going to get this and install it on my old Asus core2duo laptop from circa 2008 - damn thing still is going strong, despite plastic becoming so brittle it has not one single panel left without cracks in it. Currently it has XP on it, but that is missing whole bunch of drivers, like touchpad not working and BIOS AHCI has to be in compatible mode otherwise it will bluescreen. It's going to be nostalgia machine where all the games I used to play back in the days are installed.

                  • SpikedCola an hour ago

                    And it downloads at ADSL speeds for the full experience (although Cloudflare in front of the ISO kind of breaks character).

                    https://imgur.com/a/HEjIEVn

                    • honeycrispy an hour ago

                      I have 24h left on the download. Is anyone who has the file willing to create a torrent to share? I can't click on the twitter link for some reason.

                    • WithinReason an hour ago

                      Security updates up to 2026? If I knew this I wouldn't have upgraded to Win11 recently :)

                      • g947o an hour ago

                        > Bob Pony, a known enthusiast in the Windows community

                        I am 100% sure this guy has all the good intentions, but from a security perspective, I don't know if it is any better than a completely unpatched Windows 7 ISO.

                        • gjsman-1000 an hour ago

                          Unpatched Windows 7 is vulnerable to WannaCry/EternalBlue, among other well-known weaknesses.

                          • selfhoster11 18 minutes ago

                            Not the point. The point is that nobody who doesn't know him knows whether he can be trusted, and the ISO itself might be prepared on a compromised machine unintentionally. This is very much a supply chain issue.

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                          • macrocyclo 37 minutes ago

                            Only the ones after it got bad

                            • mschuster91 37 minutes ago

                              From a security perspective, I'd really really like not just a pre-baked image, but also instructions on how to replicate that using only files and tools with known-good hashes and/or digital signatures.

                              I too distinctly remember the times I earned my money cleaning up malware, and a few times the root cause was someone using pre-cracked install media from some shady torrent.

                              • axus 18 minutes ago

                                I imagine some beefy Microsoft support contracts were required to get all of these updates through this month, with restrictions on redistribution; this isn't Linux!

                                Is there any reason that downloading this is more legal than downloading the latest Hollywood movie?

                                • mschuster91 11 minutes ago

                                  > Is there any reason that downloading this is more legal than downloading the latest Hollywood movie?

                                  Windows ISOs with updates being baked in by third parties (usually computer magazines) has been a thing for well over a decade, ever since MS ceased to do Service Packs. So the pure act of distributing an ISO that hasn't been modified other than applying the official update packages should have enough precedence on the side of distribution being allowed that MS won't be able to do much more than maybe sending a nastygram your way.

                                  What you definitely shouldn't do though is pre-crack the ISOs... but I doubt Microsoft even cares about that at this point. Massgrave (a very popular collection of activators for everything from Windows through Office) is hosted on Github.

                                  Unlike earlier times, MS doesn't (need to) care about piracy any more, at least not from private users. The real revenue comes from enterprise and government contracts and, most importantly, the cloud.

                              • ranger_danger an hour ago

                                Infinite captcha loop for me. Not using a VPN/proxy/1.1.1.1/anything like that.

                                • majorchord an hour ago

                                  Piracy is allowed on HN now?

                                  • blell an hour ago

                                    Yes? All news articles contain a link to archive.is as a pinned comment.

                                    • WalterGR 27 minutes ago

                                      There are no pinned comments here. Any archive.is links are posted by random members.

                                      • majorchord 42 minutes ago

                                        I don't see one here?

                                        • 1317 26 minutes ago

                                          because this one isn't paywalled

                                      • Maken 39 minutes ago

                                        This still requires you to have a valid Windows 7 or Vista key.

                                        • ofrzeta 16 minutes ago

                                          It's Abandonware, isn't it?

                                          • majorchord 14 minutes ago

                                            AFAIK That is not a valid legal defense in the US. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

                                          • megous 27 minutes ago

                                            Piracy is a socially responsible thing to do these days, when MS reportedly helps persecuting and killing people. IBM of 2020s.

                                            • haunter an hour ago

                                              Always have been

                                              • CalRobert an hour ago

                                                Imagine if we actually discussed hacking!

                                                • Imustaskforhelp 20 minutes ago

                                                  Gosh the horror!