« BackChimpanzees Are into Crystalsnytimes.comSubmitted by jimnotgym 10 hours ago
  • JoelMcCracken 2 hours ago

    Don’t get me wrong, this is very interesting, but there is something very funny about the idea that “give a chimpanzee stuff and see if they like it” is academic research.

    This could absolutely be a headline on The Onion.

    • omegared8 41 minutes ago

      Sure seems stupid on first glance but most science seems pointless. It’s only when several loosely interconnected ideas that prove something MIGHT be commercially viable do we find out that it was the first curious question that … again seems stupid… was the seed of inivation

      • buttermeup 23 minutes ago

        What are some examples of questions that at first seemed stupid yet became brilliant when connected with other seemingly stupid ideas?

        • chao- 3 minutes ago

          Rather than a singular "question" that seems stupid, consider prime numbers. People toyed with prime numbers for centuries, asking all sorts of questions, with little-to-no impact on the vast majority of humans. Fast forward to the age of telecommunications: suddenly massive innovations in cryptography are being built on knowledge of prime numbers that previously was a novelty.

          • Retric 8 minutes ago

            A lot of early work into physics seemed like dumb questions at the time. When taken to the extreme “Do heavy objects fall faster?” tells you quite a bit about how the world works. And critically people intuited the wrong answers to many such questions before careful experimentation.

        • Razengan 2 hours ago

          "Breaking: Animals Have Preferences"

          • dmix 2 hours ago

            > But he’s also very interested in “the impact of crystals on the history of art and the history of mind,”

            This made my eyes roll a bit.

          • nivertech 2 hours ago

            unsurprising, since they're also into Monoliths

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHWs3c3YNs4

            • yashasolutions 28 minutes ago

              wait until they hear about microservices

            • shagie 3 hours ago
              • mikkupikku 3 hours ago

                Share links need accounts anyway? Is this new?

                "You have free access to this story. Continue reading with a Times account"

              • chasil 3 hours ago
              • tantalor 2 hours ago

                I'd gladly trade you a banana tomorrow for a crystal today.

                • talktalkmake 2 hours ago

                  You're talking ** Karl, PLAY A RECORD

                  • mrbluecoat 3 hours ago

                    They're also into bananas

                    • ducttapecrown 5 minutes ago

                      It's mentioned in the article that the chimpanzees only relinquished the crystals in exchange for many bananas, so it seems they're more into crystals...

                      • Centigonal 2 hours ago

                        so are people! we overthrew multiple countries for banan

                        • IAmBroom 2 hours ago

                          "Bananoi", please. They aren't Latin.

                        • gtowey 2 hours ago

                          What's wrong with bananas?

                          • tsimionescu 2 hours ago

                            They're a nightmare for atheists!

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfv-Qn1M58I

                            • miningape 37 minutes ago

                              I thought this was going to be the amazing atheist banana clip, was pleasantly surprised to be reminded of this instead

                              • MyHonestOpinon 2 hours ago

                                This is clearly a parody. right? right? please say yes.

                                • prophesi an hour ago

                                  The intelligent design controversy during the mid 2000's were a fun time. I still have some Flying Spaghetti Monster merch.

                              • SpaceL10n 2 hours ago

                                A sizable percentage of the human population is deathly allergic to bananas.

                                • olivia-banks 2 hours ago

                                  I'm mildly allergic to bananas, but I don't think the number of people allergic to bananas is "sizable."

                                  • throwway120385 2 hours ago

                                    My son is not, and he will let you know how not allergic he is to Bananas if he sees any that he is not eating.

                                    • IAmBroom 2 hours ago

                                      And this is relevant how?

                                  • JKCalhoun 2 hours ago

                                    Me too.

                                  • moi2388 2 hours ago

                                    What if you place a whole bunch of similar crystals in a pile, with only 1 or 2 smooth rocks?

                                    I’m willing to bet they will go after the smooth rocks and it’s about rarity, not crystals.

                                    • egypturnash an hour ago

                                      If you read the original paper (https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10....) then they go into more detail on the piles of pebbles and what got taken; the graphs in figure 4 (https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10....) make it very obvious that the chimps loved the crystals.

                                      (an "euhedral" crystal is one with lots of obvious facets, an "anhedral" one is one that's been rounded down into a more pebble shape.)

                                      • axus an hour ago

                                        You have a question, a hypothesis and designed an experiment to test it.

                                        The study had a harder question: "What properties of crystalline stones attracted them?". The abstract has this answer: "We found that transparency and geometric shape were the two attractors guiding chimpanzees."

                                        Maybe this is scientific proof for the diamond industry.

                                        • lich_king 2 hours ago

                                          > I’m willing to bet they will go after the smooth rocks and it’s about rarity, not crystals.

                                          Why? Crystals are pretty, rocks are not. We clearly prefer shiny colorful things to dull beige things, even if shiny things are abundant.

                                          • mikkupikku 12 minutes ago

                                            Well.. Some rocks are definitely shiney. It would be interesting to see if monkeys have any affinity for well polished rocks with pretty colors. Humans do like them, maybe not as much as crystals but they're nice nonetheless.