• deaux 2 days ago

    It's been well known for a while that car tires are the biggest single source of microplastics, but it's nice to have more numbers backing this up.

    This is one of multiple reasons why Electric cars are much closer to ICE cars in the overall combination of sustainability and societal effects than they are to trains and subways. It's like

    [ICE cars---Elec Cars---------------------------Trains/Subways]

    yet even on the relatively informed HN I often see people pretend it's more like

    [ICE cars-----------------------Elec cars-------Trains/Subways]

    I think it's most of it is because EVs are shiny and cool and represent technological progress and people feel attached to certain brands. That, along with personal convenience/privilege.

    • adampunk a day ago

      I think we're closer to the 2nd than the 1st example, at least outside of the united states.

      The issue isn't just tire abrasion (which will be much higher w/ EVs), but local emissions, which are *really* bad. Like we're all fucked due to CO2, but the kids getting messed up before adulthood due to chemical/particulate damage to their lungs are getting it from ICE vehicles.

      We could argue that personal electric vehicles allow for ICE cars to have a graceful transition rather than the shock changeover that's needed or that the use of either crowds out mass transit, but that's just to say that if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass hopping.

    • persumentor 2 days ago

      One interesting implication of this is that most discussions about microplastics focus on food or ocean pollution, but urban air exposure might actually be much more constant.

      Tire abrasion is happening everywhere there is traffic, so people in cities are probably inhaling these particles daily without noticing it.

      It raises question about particle size distribution. Nanoplastics behave very differently from larger particles and may interact with biological tissues in ways that are still poorly understood...

      Urban environments might therefore be an important long-term exposure pathway that hasn’t been studied as much as water or seafood contamination

      • ectospheno 2 days ago

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9851491/

        There is no safe level of air pollution. If you haven’t invested in a home air filtration system then you might want to consider it.

        • schiffern a day ago

          Even with no permanent install there are lots of good options out there, especially the new PC fan air purifiers. If you're just starting out check out HouseFresh for their excellent air purifier reviews.[0]

          If you don't mind a slightly nerdy appearance and just want the "Engineer's Filter," Airfanta has a PC fan cube with a good cost-performance ratio. Tl;dr coverage per device is 300-400 square feet = 28-37 square meters or one room, whichever is smaller. Just run it 24/7 on 50-70% depending on noise comfort. Power draw is 9 watts.

          That's sized based on ASHRAE's 5 air changes per hour guideline, which is intended to quickly filter pollution as it leaks through cracks in a building.

          Better air quality is one of the best (and cheapest) ways to improve overall health.[1]

          [0] https://housefresh.com/best-air-purifiers-we-tested/

          [1] https://dynomight.net/air/

          • resoluteteeth 13 hours ago

            > Better air quality is one of the best (and cheapest) ways to improve overall health.[1]

            While I think that the things the person lists on that site are good precautions (although I think not using an ultrasonic humidifier would be better stated as only using distilled water with ultrasonic humidifiers), I think that saying that doing these things is "is one of the best (and cheapest) ways to improve overall health" is too strong, because while there are lots of studies showing population level correlations between pm2.5 particles and health problems, I don't think there is currently evidence specifically showing that things like using air purifiers actually improve health.

        • metalman a day ago

          tire dust is one of the primary causes of mass juvinile salmon death, as it contains a biocide to prevent tires from rotting, that acumulates in roadside ditches and can be washed into rivers and streams in aerly spring whem the salmon smolts are vulnerable. Jet fuel also contains a biocide to prevent it bieng degraded by certain algae, along with, well, I'm thinking just about everything else at this point. Oh, wait, sorry, I get it, this about trying to deamonise cars in "urban" "environments" nevermind.