• WhyNotHugo an hour ago

    Somehow this whole ecosystem of tools always gives me a bad vibe, and I can't quite pinpoint why.

    All the demos and videos are applications with lots of stacked pop-ups/modal windows, and things moving around continuously. It all reminds me of what we typically see in computers in TV shows or sci-fi films.

    It just looks like a chaotic mess of things, and I get this really strong urge to just stay away from it all.

    • djfergus 21 minutes ago

      For me its the fact a large chunk of my terminal experience is over limited bandwidth connections to laggy servers with varying feature support. I appreciate the eye candy and what they have achieved but I don't need it, I just want TUIs to work everywhere with low latency.

      • gladiatr72 17 minutes ago

        Yeah. nothing quite like ANSI code dumps at 9600 bps.

      • zipping1549 an hour ago

        Bubbletea is actually pretty cool. I also agree that the website doesn't look so good.

      • zabzonk an hour ago

        Please, a simple web page that tells me what this does, and why I should use it. Links to github have never done this for me.

      • abrinz an hour ago

        I've been building a coding agent (https://github.com/abrinsmead/cogent) on the previous version of bubble tea for the past few weeks and it has been nice to work with (though honestly I'm not touching much code).

        The biggest blocker I have is that I haven't been able to simultaneously support both mouse wheel scrolling and the ability to select text for copy and paste. I understand that this is a limitation of pretty much all terminals, but we have seen it solved in Claude Code. Maybe this new version has a solution.

        • ftchd 2 hours ago

          man I want to know where their creativity comes from, it's like they've built an entire world with a story... but it's just a (highly regarded) collection of packages

          • atkrad 2 hours ago

            It's intentional design. They picked a strong visual identity early and applied it consistently; the name, the color palette, the retro terminal feel. Every package looks like it belongs to the same family. Most open source projects never think about this. Charm did from day one.

            • zelphirkalt an hour ago

              This has led to a completely overblown design of at least their website. All these cutesy pictures of bubble tea, way too big graphical wrappers, no simple page that is labeled "screenshots", no explanation what "bubbletea" actually is, ... One would think it to be a simple task to mention somewhere that this is a TUI library, where one can see it at the first glance. But apparently not. Instead I am seeing:

                  Your new coding bestie, now available in your favourite terminal. Your tools, your code, and your workflows, wired into your LLM of choice. This is artificial intelligence made glamourous.
              
              Eh, so something about AI tools? And is "Crush" another tool than "bubbletea"? Why am I seeing something about "Crush" and not about "bubbletea"?

              Maybe it's simply not my taste. For a TUI library, I expect serious listings of what it can do, what it supports, what it helps you with. Is it a layer on top of ncurses? Features and use-cases over meaningless authority arguments like "Look who uses this too!".

              I also see:

                  We make the command line glamorous.
              
              I don't want my command line to change! I configured it to be just how I like it. What they mean is, that they make command line applications using their library "glamorous" (whatever that means). I have a suggestion for a better slogan: "Your advanced command line widgets library" or "Library for advanced TUI applications".

              Maybe I am nitpicking too much.

              • tokioyoyo 36 minutes ago

                From my interactions with younger engineers, this is what "they're looking for". I think we're just used to a different format, so our expectations don't match the reality. Our instincts are different, maybe? Not sure.

                • jasonjmcghee 20 minutes ago

                  You aren't. When your content sounds like slop you drive people away.

                  Honestly amazes me they'd put that much effort into visual brand and so little effort into copywriting.

                  • jasonjmcghee 22 minutes ago

                    You aren't. When your content sounds like slop you drive people away.

                    Honestly amazes me you'd put so much effort into brand and not do copywriting yourself.

                    • slopinthebag an hour ago

                      I think it's both completely valid to feel this way, and also valid for them to have fun with their design and aesthetic. If you already know what charm does, it makes perfect sense and is cool to see.

                • mlazos 32 minutes ago

                  Maybe I’m getting old but I couldn’t tell if this was a joke or not. I think they should explain a little more like what these products actually do?

                  • neom 2 hours ago

                    I don't understand what this is but I kinda want it. Is it kinda cool-retro-term + starship?

                  • jofzar an hour ago

                    It's crazy how much this UI design is like future retro 2008 design.

                    • RS-232 12 minutes ago

                      “lipgloss”?

                      • GaggiX an hour ago

                        It took me too long to understand that this is just a TUI library for Go

                        • bigstrat2003 18 minutes ago

                          Thank you. I kept looking at the page trying to figure out WTF it even was, and was unsuccessful. Damn, I wish I had a cane so I could shake it at these devs.

                          • AberrantJ an hour ago

                            Thank you, I was excited for new drinks and flavors and this saved me the read.

                            • allthetime 40 minutes ago

                              I thought there had been a major breakthrough in tapioca-tech