« BackClaude Code may be burning your limits with invisible tokensefficienist.comSubmitted by jenic_ 4 days ago
  • marginalia_nu 3 days ago

    This is methodologically flawed, as bytes only weakly correlate with tokens.

    Unless you're sending identical requests, you can't expect the same token counts for any given of bytes, or that a slightly longer (but different) message will lead to more tokens than a slightly shorter one, or vice versa.

    • Bolwin 3 days ago

      > The numbers came from the same project and the same prompt across versions.

      I'm pretty sure the tester checked. If the request format is the same (which it is, given it uses the same as Anthropic's stable public API) and the same prompt/messages then bytes will correlate pretty well.

      • marginalia_nu 2 days ago

        The prompt may be the same, but the project context would have have surely changed. User prompt itself is unlikely to be ~200KB.

    • a_c 3 days ago

      I had the same suspicion so made this to examine where my tokens went.

      Claude code caches a big chunk of context (all messages of current session). While a lot of data is going through network, in ccaudit itself, 98% is context is from cache.

      Granted, to view the actual system prompt used by claude, one can only inspect network request. Otherwise best guess is token use in first exchange with Claude.

      https://github.com/kmcheung12/ccaudit

      • simple10 3 days ago

        I got kinda obsessed with observability a month ago and wired together a full stack for personal use.

        https://github.com/simple10/agent-super-spy - llm proxy + http MiTM proxy + LLMetry + other goodies

        https://github.com/simple10/agents-observe - fancier claude hooks dashboard

        It started as a need to keep an eye on OpenClaw but is incredibly useful for really understanding any agent harness at the raw LLM request level.

      • tencentshill 3 days ago

        On the free plan, I hit the limit instantly by uploading one 45kb PDF and one prompt. Even for a free plan, I expect a bit more. Oh well, local models can be pushed to do what I need.

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          • simianwords 3 days ago

            I don’t buy it. The same problem was reported in Claude.ai at the same time which means same underlying root cause.

            • F7F7F7 3 days ago

              What is the system prompt for $1000 Alex (RIP)?